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Pollinator Protection Campaign: Saving Honeybees!

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WANT TO EAT? SAVE THE HONEYBEE!

One out of every three bites of food that we consume is due to the work of honeybees, serving as crucial pollinators. Yet our food supply may be severely impacted by the recently identified Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) syndrome that has annually wiped out more than 30% of all honeybees from 2005 to today!

In light of the mounting evidence that new seed chemical coatings are deadly to bees, Sierra Club has been urging the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to ban the use of specific chemical treatments to protect our bees and crops until more study can be done.

At issue are the nicotinyl insecticides (also known as neonicotinoids) being used in a new way -- as seed coatings. For years, farmers have been spraying neonicotinoids onto their crops to stop insect infestation. Now huge agribusiness corporations have acquired patents to coat their proprietary corn seeds with these neonicotinoids. These "neonics" are extremely persistent. They enter the plant and are present in pollen and on droplets of water on leaves.

Federal agencies in France, Germany and Italy have already taken responsible regulatory actions to suspend use of these pesticides based on the best available scientific evidence. Strikingly, honeybee populations in Italy immediately rebounded when these chemicals were suspended!

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This link is to the film Nicotine Bees that lays bare the problem.

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Reply#1 - Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:59 AM EST
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Federal agencies in France, Germany and Italy have already taken responsible regulatory actions to suspend use of these pesticides

Sadly I don't think the bees have enough money to fight the agribusiness interests here in the US.

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Reply#2 - Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:50 PM EST
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Sometimes issues pass the point of being debatable and are simply truths to be ignored at our own peril. It's a pitiful reflection of the values of our Congress that dying for profits is policy.

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#2.1 - Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:09 PM EST
{"commentId":10618617,"authorDomain":"rochart"}

So very true!

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  • 4 votes
#2.2 - Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:20 PM EST
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{"commentId":10620032,"authorDomain":"sha-1"}

I am sorry to say I think that neonicotinoids are only part of the problem. Those of us in the suburbs constantly are treating our lawns with chemicals; when I was a child there was clover in a lawn this was normal & expected & it did not mean the lawn was not attractive. I have tried not to treat my lawn as my neighbors have & I have tons of weeds but my theory is if its all green it can blend in...at least until I get a notice from my HOA. Point is, we use to many pesticides & chemicals & we are all to blame; I would love to see some of these produts outlawed but I'm betting they have lobbyests too.

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  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:32 PM EST
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Agreed.

There are likely multiple causes of this collapse that have accumulated over time to reach a "tipping point" in the pollinators health.

It is not so different for human beings.

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  • 5 votes
#3.1 - Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:35 PM EST
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It is not so different for human beings.

Sadly most humans ignore that fact.Here is even more info:

http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/may08/colony0508.htm

“What I believe is that CCD is likely a combination of factors, as opposed to a single, discrete cause,” Pettis says.

The possibility of a multifactorial cause is one of the problems that makes investigating the cause of CCD especially complex. “When you do experimental studies, it’s hard to isolate significant differences when you have more than one variable at a time,” Pettis explains.

Pettis has already planned several collaborations to look at two factors at once as possible causes. One will be a combination of exposure to pesticide and to the Israeli acute paralysis virus (IAPV), a virus shown to be strongly associated with CCD in a study—published in Science

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#3.2 - Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:38 PM EST
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You're both right, we have toxic policies creating an increasingly toxic environment and ignoring the problems to keep from interrupting the flow of profits. It's probably at a crisis point now.

Over 4 billion pounds of toxic chemicals are released by industry into the nation's environment each year, including 72 million pounds of recognized carcinogens. Scorecard can give you a detailed report on chemicals being released from any of 20,000 industrial facilities, or a summary report for any area in the country.
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  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:08 AM EST
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{"commentId":10621493,"authorDomain":"yorandyo2"}

Most cities have ordinances banning beehives in the city limits. Talk about stupid!

Find out if your city is one of them and if it is go to the next City Council meeting to let them know they are part of the problem.

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  • 5 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:34 PM EST
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Clint...Most cities have ordinances banning beehives in the city limits. Talk about stupid!

We have lots of beehives here in NYC and they sell rooftop honey at the Greenmarkets!

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  • 3 votes
#4.1 - Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:13 AM EST
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My family has been in the honey business since 1917. We have always had problems with farmers spraying insecticides, and not informing us when they were spraying. We continually treat for mites.

I have an uncle who operates 6,000 colonies, he has lost about 25% of his hives (since replaced) to CCD. When I first spoke to him about this, he thought that corn sweeteners had something to do with it.

I think the majority of people don't realize the importance of the honey bee, I know our elected officials don't.

I believe this more critical than global warming.

Nice post Pamela, very important.

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  • 6 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:23 PM EST
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Thanks to you and the family members keeping bees, some of us do know how vital they are!

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#5.1 - Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:15 AM EST
{"commentId":10635180,"authorDomain":"sha-1"}

Curious Mosephus, can you tell us your Uncles thoughts on the corn sweeteners; this is the first I've heard it mentioned.

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#5.2 - Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:32 AM EST
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There are a lot of CCD theories that have been discussed by beekeepers and others here on the vine. We should probably have a group that collects the articles and collective wisdom.

There's nothing as valuable as reports from the folks who have a lifetime with their hands and hearts involved.

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  • 1 vote
#5.3 - Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:34 AM EST
{"commentId":10648891,"authorDomain":"Mosephus"}

SH-2000,

The corn sweeteners was just his initial thought. I've thought it could be the genetically engineered seeds that farmers are planting. As Pamela stated previously, there are many different theories.

I've often wondered if one strain of honey bee (Italian, Carniolans, Russians, etc.) is more susceptible to CCD than another.

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  • 1 vote
#5.4 - Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:50 PM EST
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Mosephus....I've often wondered if one strain of honey bee (Italian, Carniolans, Russians, etc.) is more susceptible to CCD than another.

The fundamental nature of divirsity makes each one a little stronger in one area and a little more vulnerable in another. Every living thing on the planet is here from an eternity of fine tuning, their powers to tolerate a specific, local condition and defenses against those posing mortal threats.

They adapt to the environment of the moment with the power to modify their traits by surviving to produce viable offspring or perish. It's why every coal miner doesn't get Black lung or every tobacco user get cancer. It's a rich diversity and sustainable balance that protects all life forms and made Jersey Peaches the gem of the Waldorf Astoria, before the hand of the petrochemicals made Jersey's shores the standard joke for the pitts.

My feelings about the bees maladies is much the same as for the Americans who have participated in a decade long feeing trial with the gmo crops, the immune systems are failing from a spectrum of assaults. We've supported a campaign of killing for living, with toxins applied in increasing amounts.

That has a cumulative effect and in Nature the trickle down really does happen. Each form of life relies on the health of the environment supporting it and we life forms can't take much more of the spray nozzle salvation!

Oh what a tangled web we weave, when at first we do deceive...

Fluoride and National Security
The documentary trail begins at the height of WW2, in 1944, when a severe pollution incident occurred downwind of the E.I. du Pont du Nemours Company chemical factory in Deepwater, New Jersey. The factory was then producing millions of pounds of fluoride for the Manhattan project, the ultra-secret U.S. military program racing to produce the world's first atomic bomb.

The farms downwind in Gloucester and Salem counties were famous for their high-quality produce – their peaches went directly to the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York. Their tomatoes were bought up by Campbell's Soup.

But in the summer of 1943, the farmers began to report that their crops were blighted, and that "something is burning up the peach crops around here."

Poultry died after an all-night thunderstorm, they reported. Farm workers who ate the produce they had picked sometimes vomited all night and into the next day. "I remember our horses looked sick and were too stiff to work," these reporters were told by Mildred Giordano, who was a teenager at the time. Some cows were so crippled they could not stand up, and grazed by crawling on their bellies.

The account was confirmed in taped interviews, shortly before he died, with Philip Sadtler of Sadtler Laboratories of Philadelphia, one of the nation's oldest chemical consulting firms. Sadtler had personally conducted the initial investigation of the damage.

Although the farmers did not know it, the attention of the Manhattan Project and the federal government was riveted on the New Jersey incident, according to once-secret documents obtained by these reporters. After the war's end, in a secret Manhattan Project memo dated March 1, 1946, the Project's chief of fluoride toxicology studies, Harold C. Hodge, worriedly wrote to his boss Colonel Stafford L. Warren, Chief of the Medical Division, about "problems associated with the question of fluoride contamination of the atmosphere in a certain section of New Jersey. There seem to be four distinct (though related) problems," continued Hodge;

"1. A question of injury of the peach crop in 1944."
"2. A report of extraordinary fluoride content of vegetables grown in this area."
"3. A report of abnormally high fluoride content in the blood of human individuals residing in this area."
"4. A report raising the question of serious poisoning of horses and cattle in this area."

The New Jersey farmers waited until the war was over, then sued du Pont and the Manhattan Project for fluoride damage – reportedly the first lawsuits against the U.S. A-bomb program.

Although seemingly trivial, the lawsuits shook the government, the secret documents reveal. Under the personal direction of Manhattan Project chief Major General Leslie R.Groves, secret meetings were convened in Washington, with compulsory attendance by scores of scientists and officials from the U.S War Department, the Manhattan Project, the Food and Drug Administration, the Agriculture and Justice Departments, the U.S Army's Chemical Warfare Service and Edgewood Arsenal, the Bureau of Standards, and du Pont lawyers. Declassified memos of the meetings reveal a secret mobilization of the full forces of the government to defeat the New Jersey farmers:

These agencies "are making scientific investigations to obtain evidence which may be used to protect the interest of the Government at the trial of the suits brought by owners of peach orchards in ... New Jersey," stated Manhattan Project Lieutenant Colonel Cooper B. Rhodes, in a memo c.c.'d to General Groves.

27 August 1945

Subject: Investigation of Crop Damage at Lower Penns Neck, New Jersey
To: The Commanding General, Army Service Forces, Pentagon Building, Washington D.C.

"At the request of the Secretary of War the Department of Agriculture has agreed to cooperate in investigating complaints of crop damage attributed... to fumes from a plant operated in connection with the Manhattan Project."

Signed, L.R. Groves, Major General U.S.A

"The Department of Justice is cooperating in the defense of these suits," wrote General Groves in a Feb. 28, 1946 memo to the Chairman of the U.S. Senate Special Committee on Atomic Energy.

Why the national-security emergency over a few lawsuits by New Jersey farmers? In 1946 the United States had begun full-scale production of atomic bombs. No other nation had yet tested a nuclear weapon, and the A-bomb was seen as crucial for U.S leadership of the postwar world. The New Jersey fluoride lawsuits were a serious roadblock to that strategy.

"The specter of endless lawsuits haunted the military," writes Lansing Lamont in his acclaimed book about the first atomic bomb test, "Day of Trinity."

In the case of fluoride, "If the farmers won, it would open the door to further suits, which might impede the bomb program's ability to use fluoride," said Jacqueline Kittrell, a Tennessee public interest lawyer specializing in nuclear cases, who examined the declassified fluoride documents. (Kittrell has represented plaintiffs in several human radiation experiment cases.) She added, "The reports of human injury were especially threatening, because of the potential for enormous settlements – not to mention the PR problem."

Indeed, du Pont was particularly concerned about the "possible psychologic reaction" to the New Jersey pollution incident, according to a secret 1946 Manhattan Project memo. Facing a threat from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to embargo the region's produce because of "high fluoride content," du Pont dispatched its lawyers to the FDA offices in Washington, where an agitated meeting ensued. According to a memo sent next day to General Groves, Du Pont's lawyer argued "that in view of the pending suits...any action by the Food and Drug Administration... would have a serious effect on the du Pont Company and would create a bad public relations situation." After the meeting adjourned, Manhattan Project Captain John Davies approached the FDA's Food Division chief and "impressed upon Dr. White the substantial interest which the Government had in claims which might arise as a result of action which might be taken by the Food and Drug Administration."

FLUORIDE, TEETH, AND THE ATOMIC BOMB - By Joel Griffiths and Chris Bryson

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#5.5 - Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:04 PM EST
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{"commentId":10627351,"authorDomain":"Mosephus"}

I have a few other thoughts, and they're a little off topic.

Mother Earth has ways of cleansing. When we have oil spills the oceans can do more cleansing than humans, we try, but the wave action is more proficient.

Look at the tectonic (tsunami) and volcanic activities taking place.

Now we have AIDS, but Ebola is the express version of AIDS.

H1N1? Smallpox? Polio? These are just a few of natures way of eradication. The planet doesn't care if it takes 10 years or 1,000,000 years.

I see CCD as something similar.

Maybe earth is trying to cleanse itself from the biggest pest, the dreaded homo sapien.

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  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:04 PM EST
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Maybe earth is trying to cleanse itself from the biggest pest, the dreaded homo sapien.

Nature can't match us for the speed and scope of our own destruction.

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  • 4 votes
#6.1 - Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:16 AM EST
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I have a few other thoughts, and they're a little off topic.

I should say that there is never too off topic a route to venture with me. Only nastiness is unwanted, but even there it's okay to have an occasional reminder of what certain folks are really about. Everything wanders in amazing directions so follow your nose is perfect! :~)

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  • 3 votes
#6.2 - Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:09 PM EST
{"commentId":10681814,"authorDomain":"Mosephus"}

Pamela, your post on fluoride and the atomic bomb was quite interesting.

I know a lot of differences of bee strains. Some can handle colder climates, or have tendencies to swarm. Some are more aggressive (damn Italians), others more docile. Like I said, I was wondering if one strain shows more losses to CCD than the others.

I appreciate you letting me wonder of topic a little, some authors get mad. I'm going to keep checking this seed every few days to see what shows up. And do more investigating myself.

Once again, this was an excellent seed, I've thoroughly enjoyed it.

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  • 3 votes
#6.3 - Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:33 PM EST
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Mosephus....Like I said, I was wondering if one strain shows more losses to CCD than the others.

We do have some bee keepers here on the vine who have a better handle on that and with any luck one will show up. There's one in particular that comes to mind so I'll send an email and see if he will stop by to add his wisdom, keep your fingers crossed for an expert answer!!

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#6.4 - Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:51 AM EST
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{"commentId":10682176,"authorDomain":"rochart"}

Mosephus,

From what I've read and it is by no means all inclusive, but there seems to be little difference in what breed is infected. the collapse is occurring with equal devastation around the world.

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Reply#7 - Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:12 PM EST
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rochart,

I want to thank you for your comments.

I realize it's a world wide problem, I was just offering some thoughts.

I truly believe what we're doing here, on this seed may, just may find a solution.

I've heard the Russians are making some progress on CCD; have you heard of this?

I personally operate 30 colonies, half Italian, and half Carniolans. I've lost 2 colonies, both Carniolans. I don't believe from CCD, but from my improper winterizing.

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#7.1 - Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:47 PM EST
{"commentId":10683893,"authorDomain":"rochart"}

If you raise bees you know much more than I.

My grandfather did raise a few hives and I was amazed as a child.

The head of the Hawaii Bee Keepers Association is a neighbor of mine.

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#7.2 - Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:29 PM EST
{"commentId":10684286,"authorDomain":"Mosephus"}

rochart,

I wouldn't go that far. If your grandfather is still alive, he has knowledge we can only aspire too.

Your neighbor, ask him/her. I want to hear what their thoughts are.

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#7.3 - Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:15 PM EST
{"commentId":10695478,"authorDomain":"rochart"}

My grandfather passed away a long time ago.

I will talk with my neighbor soon and share his thoughts with you on this.

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  • 2 votes
#7.4 - Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:55 PM EST
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