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We won, we won, we won the debate!!!

WWII Propaganda Artist: Glenn Grothe Year: 1942

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What a sham!! What a flim flam, snake oil scam we were treated to last night.

Part of me wants to clap and cheer for the fact that the home cooked propaganda machine has the stones to go this far. What a performance!!

Bravo boys, you kept up the face, focusing with the intensity of real journalists.

Imagine how much self control must it take for the former White House Press Secretary to probe deeply into the fabric of the lapel pin crisis, burning in the voters mind's. OMG!!

At this point even the dim bulbs in the audience know that the futre of the free world shouldn't kick off discussion with questions that would be fitting from the bleachers in a middleschool contest.

C'mon, we know that Dubbya in the Oval Office has taken the image of Presidential and transformed it to a bar stool slouch, a smirk and smattering of garbled English. But you folks in the Press, it's your job!!

Presumably you are hired for the same type of research and writing that has earned Newsvine's top political commentators their status. You know some history, you research meticulously, write clear, concise, insightful questions that are well thought out and discussed with peers.

If there are no resources at hand venture into cyberspace. Many great minds, at a myriad of sites have wisdom and insight to spare. There's news out here too; swing by Newsvine.

We get smarter here. We're too well informed and too deeply invested in a country of democracy, freedoms and rights to stand by and watch sellouts drown our voices. We are tired of being lied to, manipulated and robbed.

Bush has put as much of America's public and private resources as he possibly can in the Wall Street pockets. He has delivered big time. That swagger is from believing deeply, that the law of this land is, the man who holds the gold, makes the rules.

He's a Bonesman, untouched and untouchable, as are his circle of friendsters who pay vigorish and thrive. How are the BushCo crowd doing in his Administration? They're all richer and serving as Board members, roaming free, one and all with a bank in the Bahamas. How sweet it is. How much more could one man do?

Not much at all without the support of the Fourth Estate and Boardroom agenda in synch. Think of the hubris and ego it took for a cadre of friendsters in the Boardroom to decide voters should hear fashion news. And they thought we the sheeple would buy it??

Silly them we know that to be truly fair and balanced the Fab Five should have had time to ask about Hillary's pantsuits to counter the guest spot with the lapel pin.

Part of me feels like we won. How many years have we been here sharing details of lies and deceptions, errors and omissions of Washington that are ignored by corporate media? How many of us have lamented the viewing population who have no clue how lame and skewed the coverage is?

Thanks to ABC it's now pretty clear we're getting a boatload of the dog's business. Thanks to the involved and informed citizenry here and elsewhere the mainstream getting called out at long last. Hip hooray!! Go us!!

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Maybe the tables have turned and it's time for all of us to start posing the questions. One of the best overviews of skill and sentiment of the Newsvine community is in the Open Letter by Stevehouse.

For an amusing defense of ABCon the flip side is Bill Harrison's headliner, 100% of lefties agree!!

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Reply#1 - Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:38 PM EDT
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He is the front runner and should expect to get grilled, but lapel pins? Gimme a break!

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Reply#2 - Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:09 PM EDT
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He is the front runner and should expect to get grilled

True and no one want's home cooked stew instead! Here I just found the pin video questioner was an ABC plant. Shocking? Not so much; here's that seed.

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#2.1 - Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:18 PM EDT
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I'm no lefty but if Carl Rove was a moderator for the "free press" in a Republican debate between say Laura Bush and some other Republican candidate I would also cry foul as I am willing to do for this "debate."

Stephanopolous was a Carl Rove (if you allow me to say so) of Bill Clinton. As a trusted adviser he actually served in the administration for which one of the candidates credits much of her experience. How can that not be a conflict of interest or objectivity???

Pamela you are certainly correct that the superficiality of the debate was lost on no one. However I hope a major take away from this is that more people are seeing the media for what it truly has become - a corporate news entity vying for popularity and profits not truth.

The other take away is that these Democratic candidates have had far too many debates (I felt that way 10 debates ago) and perhaps there are no more substantive questions the media can create that will benefit voters any further... so let's get on with the primaries and election already.

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Reply#3 - Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:33 PM EDT
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The other take away is that these Democratic candidates have had far too many debates (I felt that way 10 debates ago) and perhaps there are no more substantive questions the media can create that will benefit voters any further...

Thanks for that, it's an observation that I haven't seen yet. Maybe they're dry from going the distance with 24/7 coverage that just can't be sustained for a year. We voters sure are tired of it

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#3.1 - Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
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